<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post114546789111828569..comments</id><updated>2008-12-09T04:20:22.073-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Lee &amp;amp; Cathy Jones: "The Rapture Question Answered: Plain and Simple" ...</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/feeds/114546789111828569/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html'/><author><name>Lee Jones</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07180564953973994812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>7</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-3827616350071058912</id><published>2007-01-04T04:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-01-04T04:11:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>My inaugural address at the Great White Throne Jud...</title><content type='html'>My inaugural address at the Great White Throne Judgment of the Dead, after I have raptured out billions!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.angelfire.com/crazy/spaceman/inaugural.html"&gt;Read My Inaugural Address&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.angelfire.com/crazy/spaceman/"&gt;My Site=http://www.angelfire.com/crazy/spaceman&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;Your jaw will drop!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/3827616350071058912'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/3827616350071058912'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html?showComment=1167912660000#c3827616350071058912' title=''/><author><name>Secret Rapture</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01761511408829807284</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114546789111828569' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/posts/default/114546789111828569' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114860042615961168</id><published>2006-05-25T16:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-25T16:40:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Evaluation: In terms of a personal evaluation, I w...</title><content type='html'>&lt;B&gt;Evaluation:&lt;/B&gt; In terms of a personal evaluation, I was never happier to get to the last page of a book.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I started the book genuinely interested in understanding the Pre-Wrath position, but by the end of the book I cannot stomach the idea of it. This type of person does not seek to glorify Christ but to divide His Church.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I realize this is a logical fallacy, but Van Kampen has definitely poisoned the well against his position for me. I am not the better for having spent time with this book, which is a shame.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;Conclusion:&lt;/B&gt; don't waste your time with this book. I'm sure there are better works that actually advance a Pre-Wrath view on its merits.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114860042615961168'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114860042615961168'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html?showComment=1148600400000#c114860042615961168' title=''/><author><name>Lee Jones</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07180564953973994812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07073904671975530814'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114546789111828569' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/posts/default/114546789111828569' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114860033405051566</id><published>2006-05-25T16:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-25T16:38:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Chapters 4 through 8 involve Van Kampen producing ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;B&gt;Chapters 4 through 8&lt;/B&gt; involve Van Kampen producing an entire series of straw-man attacks on Pre-tribulationists. He begins to argue more against Pre-trib than for the Pre-Wrath position.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For the remainder of the book, Van Kampen frames the Pre-Wrath position in terms of “Pre-trib is wrong”. In other words, instead of building on the merits of the Pre-Wrath position, Van Kampen spend more than 1/2 of this book attacking Pre-tribulationists.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Van Kampen begins wrapping up the book with a grossly simplified Greek lesson and word studies that essentially says, “any view that disagrees with me is a distortion of Scripture.”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;He finishes with a chapter on the evils of Pre-tribulationists and how converting away from a Pre-trib view can get you fired. By the time you reach chapter 8, all you hear is "Pre-trib is evil." Van Kampen essentially abandons any pretense of building a case for Pre-Wrath and instead launches a smear campaign. Ick.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114860033405051566'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114860033405051566'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html?showComment=1148600280000#c114860033405051566' title=''/><author><name>Lee Jones</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07180564953973994812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07073904671975530814'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114546789111828569' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/posts/default/114546789111828569' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114565314914283268</id><published>2006-04-21T13:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-21T13:59:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Chapter 3 is mostly about RVK's objections to the ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;B&gt;Chapter 3&lt;/B&gt; is mostly about RVK's objections to the Pre-Trib position. He spends a good deal of time criticizing an argument which relates the Tribulation period with the Flood. I hadn't heard that argument before, although RVK claims it is a common Pre-Trib position.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;RVK also defines God's Wrath as being different from the events of the Tribulation. Even the Great Tribulation is not yet "God's Wrath". Also, the Rapture must occur immediately prior to God's Wrath, according to RVK.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am having difficulties understanding his definition of "wrath" at this point.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114565314914283268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114565314914283268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html?showComment=1145653140000#c114565314914283268' title=''/><author><name>Lee Jones</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07180564953973994812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07073904671975530814'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114546789111828569' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/posts/default/114546789111828569' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114565292266105115</id><published>2006-04-21T13:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-21T13:55:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Chapter 2 also contained a few interesting passage...</title><content type='html'>&lt;B&gt;Chapter 2&lt;/B&gt; also contained a few interesting passages. First, RVK has strong ties with Rosenthal. Second, RVK seems to indicate that the answer becomes clear when you search for the sign of the sun, moon, and stars in the Old Testament. Third, RVK claims the answer came in a matter of hours one afternoon in the mid 1980s, and he was surprised nobody else had discovered it before.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114565292266105115'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114565292266105115'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html?showComment=1145652900000#c114565292266105115' title=''/><author><name>Lee Jones</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07180564953973994812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07073904671975530814'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114546789111828569' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/posts/default/114546789111828569' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114551345193171969</id><published>2006-04-19T23:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-19T23:10:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Chapter 2 explains the major positions (Pre/Post-t...</title><content type='html'>&lt;B&gt;Chapter 2&lt;/B&gt; explains the major positions (Pre/Post-trib) and why RVK found them insufficient. He also relates his very frequent debates with others. RVK feel his position is the only one to take the Scripture at face value.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114551345193171969'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114551345193171969'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html?showComment=1145513400000#c114551345193171969' title=''/><author><name>Lee Jones</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07180564953973994812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07073904671975530814'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114546789111828569' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/posts/default/114546789111828569' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114546795549295242</id><published>2006-04-19T10:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-19T10:32:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Chapter 1 is really an extended introduction. RVK ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;B&gt;Chapter 1&lt;/B&gt; is really an extended introduction. RVK merely explains his methodology and stresses some Bible study methods.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114546795549295242'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/114546789111828569/comments/default/114546795549295242'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html?showComment=1145467920000#c114546795549295242' title=''/><author><name>Lee Jones</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07180564953973994812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07073904671975530814'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.leeandcathy.com/2006/04/rapture-question-answered-plain-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11605599.post-114546789111828569' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11605599/posts/default/114546789111828569' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>